Christians, how do you respond to people that claim that the mentally ill are proof that free will doesn't....

....exist?





There was a Bible attacker on here that claimed that people that are schizophrenic and crazy, etc. supposedly prove a lack of free will.





How do you counter this?





Thank you for your answers.Christians, how do you respond to people that claim that the mentally ill are proof that free will doesn't....
I don't know how you counter it or not. Clearly, a schizophrenic has diminished rational awareness, and cannot be held accountable for what they do. Yet, most of us aren't not mentally ill, at least to that point. And most of us do have free will. Christians, how do you respond to people that claim that the mentally ill are proof that free will doesn't....
Ask a mentally ill person what they want to eat for dinner, and you will get an answer. The mentally ill do have freewill just to a lesser degree.





If you're simply referring to receiving the gospel then they are not accountable unless they understand that they're sinners much like children.
freewill is on a person by person basis being mentally ill does not prove that freewill in itself does not exists you have to listen to there words for a tree is known by its fruits. they are trying to mix apples with oranges. Jesus too said do not put what is Holy before Dogs, or throw your pearls before swine else you be ravaged by the wolves.
Menally ill people do have freewill, they just cant control what their illness is telling them to do. They cant overcome what their illness wants them to do. Just like people with cancer they cant just make ot go away, ya know? Thats my opinion on it.
They are held accountable by God by how much they are able to know.





I can't specifically answer your question because there are different degrees of mental illnesses, but God will hold those accountable according to what they understand.





When children die who are too young to know God they are also held accountable based on their age, so they would go to heaven.
God creates mentally ill people on purpose. there is no free will:





Romans 9: 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he chooses, and he hardens the heart of whomever he chooses.
Mental disorders are physiological conditions and not a reflection on the soul.





Creationists are mentally retarded because they choose ignorance.
Bible attacker?





If free will was real there would be no crazies.





Religion itself is proof Man is poweerless to his own insanity.





Only atheists are sane,fact.





johnathan:I want chicken cacciatore for dinner,please.
Many people who have ';schiz'; still have control over their decisions in their lives. There are other illnesses where people are exceptions to the rule. Just because one has bouts outside of reality, they can still enjoy reality under medication or even without meds. Also, ask the attacker of ';free will'; how does he explain those who DO have the will to choose to do whatever they want to do. For instance, if one truly wants to take their life away from their loved ones tonight, isn't it possible for them to do so; or not to do so, should they choose not to take their lives.


you know, you can't satisfy everyones mind and you can't appease everyone out there. But suffice it to know that many Christians , including myself have chosen to live a life of repentence and belief in God and great rewards have blessed us abundantly because of our right choices in enjoying our ';free will.'; Whatever you decide, make it your decision and not because myself or anyone else encouraged or discouraged YOU. Do it because you're willing to love outside of your safety zone. Do it because you want better in life. Do it because you want better for your loved ones and you can be an example as so many millions of We Christians are!